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[Fusioner]

<<you must know your posts are 90% self-serving anti-republican bullshit propaganda...hows that? and please, you know what I meant. don't nit-pick the details and answer the question. do you honestly believe everything you say>>

1) I do not lie to people
2) I used to be a republican, I never voted for Clinton, I supported his impeachment, I voted for Bush the first time...
3) I am telling you the truth... Republicans are not running the show... There may have been some Republicans in Washington, but your party has been corrupted virtually top to bottom and I can, and have, proven my claims.
Corruption is what destroyed FEMA, corruption is what cause the failure in response to the Katrina hurricane.

Now... Where is the root of the corruption. I have researched and studied the ideology and the people... I can tell you, I can show you.

Now.. Answer my question... Is Patrick Buchanan, founder of American Conservative Magazine and former Presidential candidate running in the GOP... Is he and his publication leftist radical???

[Fusioner]

no, pat buchanan is conservative. liberals threw food at him here at WMU last year when he was guest-speaking.

and you did not answer my question, you curtailed it again.

do you honestly believe everything you post?

[Fusioner]

<<do you honestly believe everything you post?>>

Some of what I post I color deliberately to provoak an emotional response. But I do post facts, most of my material is well supported with links, I have researched my material for accuracy. Find me a lie... Cons are on me all the time... They argue, they dissagree and call me names... Nobody has found a factual error of any significance, and certainly nobody has caught me lying.

Now... Read this:

www.amconmag.com/06_30_03/feature.html

Flirting with Fascism

Neocon theorist Michael Ledeen draws more from Italian fascism than from the American Right.

[Fusioner]

well, every time you say "ALL" when describing the character of anyone...thats an all-or-none black-and-white statement.

ALL conservatives are not evil, for example

[Fusioner]

How about All Neocons are Evil.

That is the truth.

[Fusioner]

no, thats an OPINION

[Fusioner]

No thats the truth.

Neocons the enemy of America and the GOP.

[Fusioner]

<<ALL conservatives are not evil, for example>>

Politics and evil follow the principal of the poisonous tree. If you have a fruit tree, and you pour systemic insecticide on the roots... The fruit becomes tainted. All parts of the tree are poisonous as the systemic insecticide travels throughout the tissue of the entire plant. No parts are safe to consume.

Religious and political ideology work the same in many ways. During WWII you had German soldiers in the field... They represented Hitler. They may have been "good" people... But they were evil and had to be destroyed or captured because of the influence of their ideology.

Todays conservative movement is no different. It is a criminal, and anti-American ideology.

What makes up a political movement... People do. In the ideological view... All of the followers are evil.

It's not about the people themselves... It's about the ideology they support. Many people do not realize they have been corrupted. I try to teach, because this ideology is suicidal at it's root... This ideology is a poisonous tree.

[Fusioner]

<<LOL...you should really take a look at the Democrats too.... their ideologies are at least as poisonous as the Republicans...>>

This is historic levels of corruption: treason, conspiracy, bribery, pedophilia, fraud, war profiteering, war crimes, money laundering, racketeering, graft, kickbacks, perjury, theft, obstruction of justice, torture, election fraud, spying, murder, destruction of evidence, lying to federal officials...

Billions and billions of dollars are missing, thousands are dead.

And you are laughing and pointing fingers at Democrats? How sick are you???

Scooter Libby - Indicted top aide to both Bush and Cheney - He is a LIAR!!!
David Savafian White House Procurement Chief 2004-05; indicted for corruption
Duke Cunningham - CONvicted - Cried like a baby
Scanlon - CONvicted - Turning Federal evidence
Kidan - CONvicted - Turning Federal evidence - Sentenced to 6 years
Ambramoff - CONvicted - Turning Federal evidence
Rove - Under investigation - Has long time Abramoff connections.
Frist - Under investigation for SEC violations - insider trading
Lawrence A. Franklin - CONvicted, sentanced 12 years: spying for AIPAC
U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris - $50,000 in illegal MZM money
Mitchell Wade - CONvicted - guilty of bribery and to funneling $80,000 in illegal campaign donations to Harris and U.S. Rep. Virgil Goode.
Claude A. Allen Bush's top domestic policy adviser - Arrested for theft & fraud
Tony Rudy - CONvicted - Tom DeLay's former deputy chief of staff, admitted to conspiring with convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff
Brian Doyle - Deputy Press Secretary at DHS arrested and confessed to 23 felony counts of sending pornography and soliciting sex from a 14yo girl
James Tobin - CONvicted - Bush campaign operative involved in election fraud
Thomas W. Noe - CONvicted - Major Bush Fundraiser and Pioneer Indicted on a whopping 53 felony counts, including theft of over $1 million
George Ryan - CONvicted of 22 felony counts of racketeering and fraud - Former GOP Gov of Illinois
Hey Hey what about Tom DeLay??? - Indicted for money laundering,
has stated he would resign rather than run in '06.

www.commondreams.org/views05/1215-28.htm

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